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Who are you going to vote for?

  • George W. Bush

    Votes: 23 41.8%
  • John Kerry

    Votes: 31 56.4%
  • Ralph Nader

    Votes: 1 1.8%

  • Total voters
    55
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Move on!

Cedar said:
I think we may need a plan B

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=6704292

"Canadian officials made clear on Wednesday that any U.S. citizens so fed up with Bush that they want to make a fresh start up north would have to stand in line like any other would-be immigrants -- a wait that can take up to a year. "

Yeah, that'd be great. Why don't all you liberal wackos move to Canada. It'd be the best thing for our country since George W. Bush won a second term as president.
 
Erik said:
You must be kidding me. Bush makes decisions based on what's good for the country? Bush makes decisions based on what he thinks is religiously correct, thank you very much.

By the way, I don't mean to be harsh, but do you have anything useful to contribute to our forums, such as deals, or are you all bent up on praising Bush.

I am totally glad our president isn't afraid to use his religiuos convictions in running our country. Why do you think he won a second term - get a hint here!

Oh, and I have contributed deals to the sight under a different user name. I,Republican is only here to have fun.
 
wackos or rational & logical thinkers ? Scary isn't it, people thinking for themselves.
 
i said:
I am totally glad our president isn't afraid to use his religiuos convictions in running our country. Why do you think he won a second term - get a hint here!
Well, actually Bush didn't win the first time, in fact he really didn't win at all, except the critical 5 to 4 at the US Supreme Court. So in reality, his winning a second time is actually his first time.

Oh, and I have contributed deals to the sight under a different user name. I,Republican is only here to have fun.
Sight?
 
i said:
Oh, and I have contributed deals to the sight under a different user name. I,Republican is only here to have fun.

Well according to your IP# you only have this one account. So tell the truth. :hmm: No wonder you like Bush. LOL
 
Watch him come back with "oh yeah... yeah.... I use a different computer for that account..." LOL
Keep looking for those WMDs I,Republican LOL
 
i said:
I am totally glad our president isn't afraid to use his religiuos convictions in running our country. Why do you think he won a second term - get a hint here!

You think ONE "religious" person speaks for all people even those not of Christian faith, but that is not even the point the point is the bible is NOT as important as the Constitution in politics.
 
I am not of the Christian faith, and I can tell you that I am completely offended by Bush's practices, and the fact that our country is stupid enough to elect him without him stealing the election. I can't understand how what he did in the last four years warrants him a reelection without contest.
 
I speak the truth!

Choochoojr said:
Well according to your IP# you only have this one account. So tell the truth. :hmm: No wonder you like Bush. LOL

It was probably a year or so ago and I probably had a different internet provider than I have now.
 
spoofskate said:
Watch him come back with "oh yeah... yeah.... I use a different computer for that account..." LOL
Keep looking for those WMDs I,Republican LOL

Those WMDs may or may not exist. What is Kerrys excuse for voting for the war based on the same information that President Bush had?
 
:hmm: Interesting graphic...I like mine better:

voted4kerry.jpg
 
Very good Capt Nemo. It puts things in perspective. And for the anti-Christians (or should I say anti-religion in the USA) you can be offended all you want, but our country stands on religion. We are one nation under God. If you don't agree with that perhaps it's time for a change for you.
 
Capt. Nemo said:
:hmm: Interesting graphic...I like mine better:

voted4kerry.jpg
That's funny. Why would they vote for Kerry? bin Laden still is free, North Korea has a better developed nuclear program thanks to Bush and Hussein would never have been such a large power in Iraq if not for Bush's daddy and his boss.
 
The reason why the USA has been a great country for over 200 years is because we keep church and state separate.
The reason why so many other countries are in turmoil is because they mix religion and politics.
People can believe in any Faith all they want, but it should never ever be mixed with our government. This will be the beginning of the end for this country. Look to the future people. Try to see the big picture.
This is wrong.
 
OBlachubs said:
Very good Capt Nemo. It puts things in perspective. And for the anti-Christians (or should I say anti-religion in the USA) you can be offended all you want, but our country stands on religion. We are one nation under God. If you don't agree with that perhaps it's time for a change for you.


We don't believe in your "god" so we need a change :hmm: how about keep any bible out of politics, stop thinking Christianity is the only religion because it's not. This country was founded under religious freedom NOT Only Christian's freedom. The sad part is not all Christians believe in Bush and all this nonsense is making them look bad too. I know many Christians, one of them has been teaching Sunday school for 40 years and she didn't want Bush either. That doesn't make her less of a Christian as she put it "Bush is no Christian you have to live it just not say it" and that appears to apply to you too OBlachubs. You have pulled the "he's watching" garbage over a light bulb lie but you have no problem being a liar yourself over a toothbrush and some floss. Maybe the reason you are feeling others are anti-Christians when in reality is it's just anti-fake Christians.

How would you feel OBlachubs over a Jewish white house, you wouldn't still think it's ok to have ONE religion in power making the rules based on their beliefs pushed now on you. You would react the way, where do they get off telling us how to live.

So get over yourself. I don't like you for you, not because of your religion. :rolleyes: and I'm sure you feel the same way.
 
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The truth is with Bush in office they already know what to expect and lets face it Bin Laden did say thank you Bush for giving all that extra time. So lets see would they want the guy that bombs the wrong country and gives plenty of notice, time, along with wearing our army thin so that weakens us or someone they don't know what to expect from. He could be better or worse but how hard do you have to try to mess up foreign policy worse then Bush?

Bush has been one of the largest helpers to Bin Laden's recuriting new members.
 
My parents left their home country, Egypt, and came to America in the early 1970's. They did not leave because they wanted to. They were very well off and had absolutely no economic reason to leave. Egypt was a beautiful, free, and modern place where people of all religions lived together in harmony. But in the late 60's early 70's, there was a big Islamic movement (we are Catholic by the way). My family was feeling less and less comfortable there because the Islam religion started to take over politics and the government. Yes, this was fine for the Islamic people, but not everyone in Egypt was Muslim. So basically, my parents were forced to leave. They came to the USA with almost nothing in their pockets (they couldn't get the money out of the country) because they knew that religion was not driving America and that they would be free from any kind of religious persecution.

Now, Egypt has a loud speaker on every building which amplifies Islamic prayers 5 times a day. The Islamic president has been in power for 22 years because noone can or will run against him. The majority of non-Muslim Egyptians have left the country. There are mosques everywhere. They don't sell any type of alcohol in the stores and you will not find pork anywhere. Even when I went to TGI Fridays in Cairo, they had 4 pages of non-alcoholic mixed drinks! There was no alcohol or pork on the menu at all. I could go on and on.
When I returned home from my trip, I thanked my parents for having left there and raising my brother and I as Americans. I felt a loss of freedom in Egypt that stems from religion. It's not really something I can explain. But I was basically forced to hear the prayers, forced to turn off the music in the car when the prayers were going on, looked down upon because my head was not covered, was given a hard time by police because my head was not covered, had to walk on the street because the sidwalks were filled with men on their knees praying, had to watch what I said about the faith, had to buy a can of beer from a small market where they had a stash in the back and had to wrap it up in a paper bag before they brought it out, heard the stories from family members who had been turned down for jobs because they were not Muslim, etc.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't want to hear Christian prayers from loud speakers everyday. I don't want Americans judging each other because of religion. I don't want public school children to be forced to recite Christian prayer. I don't want to see mosques, temples, etc. being torn down to put up Christian places of worship. I don't want to see a president stay in power past what the law states because the majority of non-Christians have left the country and noone is willing to run against the Christian president. I want to eat and drink what I want, when I want. Finally, I don't want any religion forced out of this country.

I know this sounds far fetched, but it can happen. The wheels have already started to turn in this direction. It has happened in other countries. Just because this is America, doesn't mean that we are immune from such things.

There exist Christian extremists and terrorists too...

There I am done... :D
 
It's not far fetched. Thank you for writing that.
 
Thanks Cedar, it took a while.
I think that actually experiencing a country where religion is the dominating force would have a significant impact on people.
The problem is that most people have not visited such a place so they really can't comprehend it.
We just need to study the world around us. Knowledge is power.
;)
 
iluvdeals said:
Thanks Cedar, it took a while.
I think that actually experiencing a country where religion is the dominating force would have a significant impact on people.
The problem is that most people have not visited such a place so they really can't comprehend it.
We just need to study the world around us. Knowledge is power.
;)
I have to admit, I found your post about Egypt quite convincing. I think it would be good for us to visit or learn about such oppression before we really make our voices heard.
 
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