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Who are you going to vote for?

  • George W. Bush

    Votes: 23 41.8%

  • John Kerry

    Votes: 31 56.4%

  • Ralph Nader

    Votes: 1 1.8%
  • Total voters
    55
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ksocia said:
Good luck to both candidates tomorrow, and let's hope for our sake that there is a clear winner either way, and it doesn't end up in the courts for years.
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I think we need a Spoofee date pool for the day we know the winner. ;)
Maybe we will be lucky and know before Thanksgiving .
We are going to vote before work and then sit back and watch the show on TV.
 
music2myear said:
Wow, good post. That's some data I can mull over. But anyways, about that bit above. Did you know that Abraham Lincoln wasn't elected with a majority of the popular vote? Oh, and neither did that great leader of yester-decade, Bill Clinton. Nor did Harry Truman (the Dewey Upset), Woodrow Wilson (the only world leader who proposed helping Germany rebuild after WWI, which would most likely have prevented the rampant depression and power vaccum into which Hitler stepped a few years later), John F Kennedy (very popular president, no argument there), and eight others (I'm not sure, but I believe Jefferson was one of the eight, very messy election that year).
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You dumbass! Those guys all won the most votes in the country. None of them actually had fewer votes than the other candidates!

Further, Bush won 30 states. That means the majority in 30 states (a majority of the states for those who don't remember how many states we have or who aren't good at math). Gore won 20 states and DC. Gore's states were more populated that's true, but he won less of them.
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Yeah. Bush won all those states that have the minimum 3 electoral votes. Congrats on winning the iceberg of Alaska, or the vast fields of Montana. Yes, Bush has the cow vote! But where people actually live... Gore and soon Kerry will win the most votes.
 
Checkout www.zogby.com for the best final polling. From his numbers, Kerry needs Florida (tie), Ohio (he has Bush in the lead but other local polls have it as a dead heat), Colorado (Bush is ahead, but Kerry can win), or a combination of say Arkansas and West Virginia, or Missouri.

GO KERRY! I'll be at the polls at about 6:30. Lets get this bastard out of the White House and get America back into the prominence it deserves!
 
Yeah, Go George W. Bush! Go home to Texas and out of the White House!
 
It comes down to Ohio where tallies from the Democratic strongholds in Cuyahoga, Franklin, Summit, Lucas counties are not even half reported.

Ohio decides who wins the presidency.
 
Uggh... unless something magical happens in those ghettos, everyone prepare to kiss a few more civil rights goodbye and get ready for a couple more wars. And those those Kerry supporters/Bush haters that didn't vote today: go hang yourselves, or sign up for the military: you'll die faster.
 
This is incredibly awful. Now that it looks like he's going to return as a lame-duck president, I'm sure he'll really kick his f***-up-the-country policies into high gear. And of course, looks like he now has even more control in Congress now. I'm going to start looking for a house in Canada.
 
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One thing that is very strange is how much the exit polls differed from the final results, especially in Ohio. Remember that Ohio uses Diebold voting machines in many areas. These machines have no paper trail. Early in the campaign, Diebold CEO Walden O'Dell, a GOP fundraiser, promised to deliver . that.Ohio to Bush He later regretted having said

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spoofskate said:
This is incredibly awful. Now that it looks like he's going to return as a lame-duck president, I'm sure he'll really kick his f***-up-the-country policies into high gear. And of course, looks like he now has even more control in Congress now. I'm going to start looking for a house in Canada.
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Spoofskate, look for a duplex, I'm coming with you!
 
Define Lame-duck...

Let's see:
- a 3 million vote margin in the popular vote
- the majority of the electoral college (duh)
- gains for his party in both houses giving him a sympathetic simple majority in both
- issues he's championed winning hands down (bans on homosexual marriage win in 11 of 11 states voting on them)
- and similarly conservative lawmakers making up significant portions of those adding to the margins in the houses.

Does that spell lame-duck? Umm, yea, didn't think so.
I'd call that a bit of a mandate, IMHO.
 
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music2myear said:
Define Lame-duck...

Let's see:
- a 3 million vote margin in the popular vote
- the majority of the electoral college (duh)
- gains for his party in both houses giving him a sympathetic simple majority in both
- issues he's championed winning hands down (bans on homosexual marriage win in 11 of 11 states voting on them)
- and similarly conservative lawmakers making up significant portions of those adding to the margins in the houses.

Does that spell lame-duck? Umm, yea, didn't think so.
I'd call that a bit of a mandate, IMHO.
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Um music... a lame-duck president is one who is on his second term and therefore ineligible for re-election. It has absolutely nothing to do with how he was elected.
I'm not questioning the results. If he won, he won. I just meant that since his next term will no longer have to worry about re-election, he will probably drift even further right. That's the issue I was getting after.
 
spoofskate said:
Um music... a lame-duck president is one who is on his second term and therefore ineligible for re-election. It has absolutely nothing to do with how he was elected.
I'm not questioning the results. If he won, he won. I just meant that since his next term will no longer have to worry about re-election, he will probably drift even further right. That's the issue I was getting after.
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Just give up explaning anything to Music, he posted yesterday he wants to see more on TV of the towers falling, he is sick and uninformed so I for one am just going to ignore him. As he ignores each time he is corrected shows no interest in what is real.

Spoof I would however like to sign up for the four year vacation to Canada ;)
 
druvans said:
One thing that is very strange is how much the exit polls differed from the final results, especially in Ohio. Remember that Ohio uses Diebold voting machines in many areas. These machines have no paper trail. Early in the campaign, Diebold CEO Walden O'Dell, a GOP fundraiser, promised to deliver . that.Ohio to Bush He later regretted having said

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Actually electronic voting was used in only a couple areas in Ohio.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Actually electronic voting was used in only a couple areas in Ohio.
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Yes, the highly populated democratic areas. People waited up to 10 hours to vote! That is ridiculous!
 
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This sums it up.

I'm happy it's over, now we just sit back and enjoy the comedy that will ensue and feel bad for the next guy to take office, he is going to have one huge mess to clean up. If anything we have learned in the last four years is a good sense of humor is the key to living with Bush, without the hilarity of it all I would surely go crazy.
 
spoofskate said:
I just meant that since his next term will no longer have to worry about re-election, he will probably drift even further right. That's the issue I was getting after.
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That's the thing about our worthy president. He's always made the decision based on what he feels is best for the country based on the information he has available no matter how politically unpopular it is - That is a leader!
:42: :claps:
 
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