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also found this about the pony express on another site
Since my last post I have spoken to TWO different people at the San Francisco Wells Fargo History Museum. No get this, these are the people who were referred to me by the representatives of the Sacramento Wells Fargo History Museum.
I decided to call back since I hadn't heard anything and got a gentleman who told me this (ANOTHER STORY):
The LAST WESTBOUND rider left ATCHISON, KANSAS on November 20, 1861. He didn't have a date of arrival at Sacramento/San Francisco, but
said it would have been around November 30. He agreed with everyone else that the last EASTBOUND rider arrived at Atchison on November 7, 1861.
Now, about a half hour later, the person I'd called originally returned my call.
SHE said that the last west-bound rider left St. Joseph, Missouri on October 24, 1861, but she didn't have a date of his arrival, only that he would only have ridden to Placerville, not to Sacramento and on to San Francisco.
Now, I have read, along with everyone else, the website of the Pony Express Association, the page which someone recently posted.
I have spoken to five different people at four different museums. OBVIOUSLY, Marlboro didn't get their information from the Wells Fargo Historical Museums (which should be a treasure-trove of information, since Wells Fargo owned the Pony Express during the last months of using Pony Express riders, plus the several years afterward that they owned the name and continued mail delivery by coach, rail, ferry, and steamer.
They also DID NOT get their information from the California State Museum. None of these people seemed to have the information at hand, which I would ASSUME (I know what that word means, but I prefer not to think about that!) that they would have if Marlboro had approached them beforehand.
With this in mind, I am further ASSUMING that Marlboro got their information EITHER from the PONY EXPRESS NATIONAL MUSEUM in St. Joseph, MO, or from the Pony Express Association or their website.
Otherwise, it's a matter of which group, the Pony Express National Museum, or the Pony Express Association, you want to accept as the best authority.
Right now I'm not certain myself, but I ASSUME (again!) that they've got the date down for either November 20, 1861 or November 21, 1861 at Placerville, Sacramento, or San Francisco. They probably have no "CLUE" that their date and location, whenever/wherever they might be, are VERY LIKELY WRONG. Good luck. I think I'm going to go with the Pony Express National Museum's version of November 21, 1861 at Sacramento, California, even though I think it's wrong and the packet was actually left at Placerville, probably on November 19 or 20, then traveled by rail without a rider to Sacramento, where it was loaded on a ferry bound for San Francisco, arriving there 8 hours later
Since my last post I have spoken to TWO different people at the San Francisco Wells Fargo History Museum. No get this, these are the people who were referred to me by the representatives of the Sacramento Wells Fargo History Museum.
I decided to call back since I hadn't heard anything and got a gentleman who told me this (ANOTHER STORY):
The LAST WESTBOUND rider left ATCHISON, KANSAS on November 20, 1861. He didn't have a date of arrival at Sacramento/San Francisco, but
said it would have been around November 30. He agreed with everyone else that the last EASTBOUND rider arrived at Atchison on November 7, 1861.
Now, about a half hour later, the person I'd called originally returned my call.
SHE said that the last west-bound rider left St. Joseph, Missouri on October 24, 1861, but she didn't have a date of his arrival, only that he would only have ridden to Placerville, not to Sacramento and on to San Francisco.
Now, I have read, along with everyone else, the website of the Pony Express Association, the page which someone recently posted.
I have spoken to five different people at four different museums. OBVIOUSLY, Marlboro didn't get their information from the Wells Fargo Historical Museums (which should be a treasure-trove of information, since Wells Fargo owned the Pony Express during the last months of using Pony Express riders, plus the several years afterward that they owned the name and continued mail delivery by coach, rail, ferry, and steamer.
They also DID NOT get their information from the California State Museum. None of these people seemed to have the information at hand, which I would ASSUME (I know what that word means, but I prefer not to think about that!) that they would have if Marlboro had approached them beforehand.
With this in mind, I am further ASSUMING that Marlboro got their information EITHER from the PONY EXPRESS NATIONAL MUSEUM in St. Joseph, MO, or from the Pony Express Association or their website.
Otherwise, it's a matter of which group, the Pony Express National Museum, or the Pony Express Association, you want to accept as the best authority.
Right now I'm not certain myself, but I ASSUME (again!) that they've got the date down for either November 20, 1861 or November 21, 1861 at Placerville, Sacramento, or San Francisco. They probably have no "CLUE" that their date and location, whenever/wherever they might be, are VERY LIKELY WRONG. Good luck. I think I'm going to go with the Pony Express National Museum's version of November 21, 1861 at Sacramento, California, even though I think it's wrong and the packet was actually left at Placerville, probably on November 19 or 20, then traveled by rail without a rider to Sacramento, where it was loaded on a ferry bound for San Francisco, arriving there 8 hours later
