A question for anybody who might know

I believe that was a 'new world' thing. European explorers took it back to their homes.
But that doesn't explain the near East, like Turkey with their hookas.
 
But that doesn't explain the near East, like Turkey with their hookas.

Actually the Hookas were on the West side. It was Giuliani who cleaned up 42nd Street and all the Hookas in the 90's. Ask Jerry, he'll remember what 42nd street was like in the 70's & 80's.....however, I don't ever recall any turkeys running around....:hmm:.......:doh: Oh! That turkey! :doh:......We used to call them pimps and jive turkeys! LOL
 
Rudy, my hero :like:
The relatively few hoes and the pimps and pushers that are left are now on 8th Ave (although I didn't see ANY at 5 a.m. this morning - very odd).

There are some turkeys scheduled to knock down the bars that attract them and put up some more condos. In fact one of the pormo shops is offering 20% discounts and has signs that say "everything must go", building being torn down. This will help clean up the 8th Ave. corridor from 42nd to Central Park.

I'm sure this well mean more Starbucks stores which brings up back to topic. :cup:

I believe that was a 'new world' thing. European explorers took it back to their homes.
But that doesn't explain the near East, like Turkey with their hookas.

Good on it being a 'new world' thing but why? Surely somebody wasn't sitting around one day and thought it would be fun to inhale the smoke of dried leaves. And as you point out, it was one of those "great" discoveries that happened in many continents.
 
How about lobsters? Have you really looked at them? "Mmmmm..look at that big ugly sea cockaroach! I'll bet it tastes good!"
 
worse yet, oysters

"Look, Og, let's pry open this hard shell and eat the snotwad inside!"
 
I don't think that the consumption of ugly sea creatures quite compares to the inhaling of smoke. Not that I like oysters but a very interesting book is "The Big Oyster". Until the turn of the turn of the 20th century they were like hot-dogs are today, popular and sold everywhere. On the other hand I love lobster. In either case it's easy to imagine seeing some animal or fish eating something and then trying it oneself. Except for homo sapiens and those animals that man makes smoke (such as monkeys) I don't think that any do.
 
See, to me it's easy to see throwing something on the fire and then realizing..."hey man...this is good! dude find more of that plant" but picking an animal to eat just because something else ate it? I've seen survivor man eat all kinds of stuff that I'd rather starve then try.

re: oysters..I can't say I ever liked them. Kind of like haveing someone elses tounge in your mouth-and not in a good way! But then I tried oyster shooters..they weren't so bad..:)
 
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Yeah, but what about smoking. I've burned leaves before, got in the smoke, took a breadth and never said to myself, "hey this is good, let me breath some more".
 
Apparently, you didn't have the right kind of leaves
 
Apparently, you didn't have the right kind of leaves

This is exactly my point - why tobacco. Except that it generates smoke (which is a useless result) it's useless.
 
But you're wrong there, remember the nicotine. The guys who first got a lungfull probably felt like those goats chewing coffee beans. Who knows, they may have chewed it, or cooked it and ate it.
 
Yeah, but what about smoking. I've burned leaves before, got in the smoke, took a breadth and never said to myself, "hey this is good, let me breath some more".

What were you smoking to stand in smoke for a long time ?
 
But you're wrong there, remember the nicotine. The guys who first got a lungfull probably felt like those goats chewing coffee beans. Who knows, they may have chewed it, or cooked it and ate it.

That has got to be the shortest high ever if getting dizzy and turning green counts as "high".

OK, I have a theory. As with why I think we eat meat (since it's not really good for us) I think the smoking is an attempt to emulate and appease the "gods of the volcano".
Some goofy witchdoctor (like the Psychiatrist of today) didn't know what to do so convinced the whole tribe that if they all would just be quiet and calm and all were the same, and would make the gods happy by being as one of them (in this case imitating the god) that everything in the world would be perfect.
 
Now, Jerry, apply for a federal grant of say $4million to prove your theory.

You can send me $1M for giving you the idea.
 
I get $1 for being in his study as the :hail: Goddess. :05:
 
Hmmm, I think volcano gods are masculine,

you know, all that puffing and snorting and spouting off
 
Well then, can I get the million for being the 'virginal sacrifice'? :05:
...:noidea:There was some "puffing and spouting off" involved during the sacrifice..:doh:...and of course some smoking afterwards....:eyebrows:....and I forgot, there was some praises too, the phrase, "Oh God!"....was often repeated....:05:
 
OK, you win

You're certainly 'on your game' this morning!
 
Well then, can I get the million for being the 'virginal sacrifice'? :05:
...:noidea:

:eek:

If you can prove the "virginal" part ;) , proving the volcano theory will be a piece of cake. :wof:
 
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