Call Collect anyone?

callmeCrazyButt said:
I agree w/ you to a certain extent.
What about those that were wrongfully incarcerated? Also, I think the level of crime should determine if someone is allowed to use the phone, who they call and for how long.
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thank you! :claps:
 
callmeCrazyButt said:
I agree w/ you to a certain extent.
What about those that were wrongfully incarcerated? Also, I think the level of crime should determine if someone is allowed to use the phone, who they call and for how long.
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if you've done something that warrants jail time, you really should have to serve it as such- it's paying your debt to society, and that involves sacrifice.

of course if you're behaving yourself while incarcerated, you ought to have a chance, when appropriate, to call home. trying to "sneak" around the system, though, is .... um.... not what i'd consider "good behavior".



(btw, ask around-- they're all there "wrongfully") :p
 
clubchick said:
if you've done something that warrants jail time, you really should have to serve it as such- it's paying your debt to society, and that involves sacrifice.

of course if you're behaving yourself while incarcerated, you ought to have a chance, when appropriate, to call home. trying to "sneak" around the system, though, is .... um.... not what i'd consider "good behavior".



(btw, ask around-- they're all there "wrongfully") :p
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Again I agree, the people that are behaving should get a "reward".
I know you're only teasing when you say all of them would say they are wrongfully there, but there are some that actually are.
 
Who are we to judge anyone, we too make mistakes and in some cases it lands some of us in jail but it doesn't necessarily mean your "BAD" or that your family has to suffer for your behavior/mistakes.

for example, my aunt didn't do anything, all she wants is to talk to her child, to see how he's doing. So should she be crucified b/c she has a son in jail?? one day when your child is all grown up and you dont have control of them and when they go out into the world on their own they will too make mistakes, some minor and some major but you will still love them.

the payphones in jails are all a scam, they dont let you use quarters, only prepaid calling cards and they make a deal with the devil. they make a deal with the call collect company and they get a kick back on every call collect made in the jail house, now tell me if that isn't wrong?!
 
lovefreebees said:
The payphones in jails are all a scam, they dont let you use quarters, only prepaid calling cards and they make a deal with the devil. they make a deal with the call collect company and they get a kick back on every call collect made in the jail house, now tell me if that isn't wrong?!
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Not judging...however.....the person who is incarcerated is incarcerated for a reason. Incarceration is not cheap (tax payers pay for it), making a telephone call while incarcerated is a privilege. If this convict can manage to 'pay for a privilege', they can manage to contribute (the kick back) toward the expenses they create due to their incarceration. I'm sure the 'kick back' that is received does not exceed the cost of the incarceration.
 
precocious said:
Not judging...however.....the person who is incarcerated is incarcerated for a reason. Incarceration is not cheap (tax payers pay for it), making a telephone call while incarcerated is a privilege. If this convict can manage to 'pay for a privilege', they can manage to contribute (the kick back) toward the expenses they create due to their incarceration. I'm sure the 'kick back' that is received does not exceed the cost of the incarceration.
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:amen:

it wasn't too long ago that telephones weren't even an option. writing letters was the only way to communicate with anyone on the "outside"... it's this "country club" mentality about jail that's nauseating. a stacked weight room and satellite t.v.? come on!

:focus: i'm sorry that innocent people have to pay extra to talk to their loved ones in jail. it's just one more reason to stay out of trouble with the law (if having a conscience isn't enough)
 
This is just ridiculous, prisoners have all done something wrong and are sent there for a reason.
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Well not all of them.

http://www.innocenceproject.org/

http://www.innocenceproject.org/know/Browse-Profiles.php



Two Dallas men freed in 2 weeks, Texas to hold Summit on Wrongful Convictions
Two innocent men have been released from prison in Dallas in the last two weeks after DNA testing proved their innocence. Together they served 50 years in prison for crimes they didn’t commit. James Woodard (left) was released April 29 and Thomas McGowan (right) was released April 16. State Sen. Rodney Ellis will convene a Summit on Wrongful Convictions in Austin on May 8.
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Any one know the percentages of wrongfully incarcerated prisoners?

:secret: If you ask them, I'm sure it's about 99.99% :doh:

Seriously....what's the margin for error?
 
Guys, maybe we should let lovefreebees get the help she needs for her cousin & aunt here in her own thread, and take this discussion on the penal system somewhere else. Just a thought. She didn't ask us what we thought about the rights, culpability, etc. of people in jail---she asked for help w/ a specific problem.
 
Drifa said:
Guys, maybe we should let lovefreebees get the help she needs for her cousin & aunt here in her own thread, and take this discussion on the penal system somewhere else. Just a thought. She didn't ask us what we thought about the rights, culpability, etc. of people in jail---she asked for help w/ a specific problem.
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True, sorry about that lovefreebees! :focus:
 
Drifa said:
Guys, maybe we should let lovefreebees get the help she needs for her cousin & aunt here in her own thread, and take this discussion on the penal system somewhere else. Just a thought. She didn't ask us what we thought about the rights, culpability, etc. of people in jail---she asked for help w/ a specific problem.
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hehe....She said "penal"....:theyareon




:p
 
Drifa said:
Guys, maybe we should let lovefreebees get the help she needs for her cousin & aunt here in her own thread, and take this discussion on the penal system somewhere else. Just a thought. She didn't ask us what we thought about the rights, culpability, etc. of people in jail---she asked for help w/ a specific problem.
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:focus:

so, since there doesn't seem to be a legal way of getting around the system, maybe the best answer is to suggest that he not call as often or talk as much.
 
a friend told me that he had made a call (in the same situation) and it was around $19 for less than 5 minutes! :eek:
 
Drifa said:
Guys, maybe we should let lovefreebees get the help she needs for her cousin & aunt here in her own thread, and take this discussion on the penal system somewhere else. Just a thought. She didn't ask us what we thought about the rights, culpability, etc. of people in jail---she asked for help w/ a specific problem.
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:amen: <--- (you know its funny i've been wanting to use this icon for the longest but never had a reason to until now)

Thank you Drifa, i appreciate it. :claps:
 
you guys dont want to know how much my aunt's bill is, it'll make you :verysad:

I've tried telling her not to pick up the phone when he calls but i am no in the right mind to tell him not to call. its his first time in jail and he's nervous and bored wants to pass time by talking to his family. I can do so much but offer suggestions and see whats out there.
 
lovefreebees said:
you guys dont want to know how much my aunt's bill is, it'll make you :verysad:

I've tried telling her not to pick up the phone when he calls but i am no in the right mind to tell him not to call. its his first time in jail and he's nervous and bored wants to pass time by talking to his family. I can do so much but offer suggestions and see whats out there.
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I've been in the same position as your aunt... and nobody can say what they will do until they are on the other end of that collect call. I agree that people should be punished for their crimes. That's why I did not bail my son out.
I know your aunt appreciates you being there for her. :kiss:
 
snibble said:
I've been in the same position as your aunt... and nobody can say what they will do until they are on the other end of that collect call. I agree that people should be punished for their crimes. That's why I did not bail my son out.
I know your aunt appreciates you being there for her. :kiss:
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I know how hard it to make a decision like you have but sometimes tough love is what they need.

thank you, i'm sure she does too.
 
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