Social Groups Removed

Roger Wilco said:
Good idea. And if we post cubs win cubs win next to the thread title, that will break the Sianis curse, too.
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Roger where have you been? (How have you been?) I've seen you off and on in the forum over the years....what's your take on the social groups? Is that what encouraged you to start psoting again? Welcome back :claps:

BTW funny post:)
 
I for one am glad the groups are gone and I made that suggestion to Spoofee. It was causing conflict and division amongst the members. There is enough of that already.
 
Well it did get some dormant members to be active again.

Do you have any constructive positive suggestions? You must admit, the activity level these past couple days have been a lot busier than they have been for a while and it wasn't all bad......:noidea:

Some members will always have issues, no mater what the site features. Should all the other memebers be subjected to and at the mercy of their whims? :noidea:

Should a few be able to ruin it or all? It seems that there are a good portion of members that did appreciate it and would like to have another chance at it, with a few changes/tweaks.
 
Sure, you can't make everyone happy all the time. Whether you'd like to admit it or not, it caused a lot of conflict.
I have no positive suggestions.
I don't think the ability to have groups is what brought people back.
I do know for a fact that all the bickering that was going on is was chased me away as well as several other members. I can't speak for the whole group (not the sane or crazy group), but there are people on their way out again because of the same thing.
Yeah the site has changed, but not the attitude. Just my two cents.
 
Well, if no one is willing to 'adjust' their attitude, then that group will leave again b/c 'nothing has changed'. :doh:

Mr. Spoofee has made an effort to make changes within himself, his mods, his site in hopes to accommodate members and their needs for the benefit of all. Is the group that is planning to head out the door again not willing to compromise neither and give positive, constructive suggestions and be willing to be more tolerant of others? He's listening..... Or do they expect Mr. Spoofee to cater to the whims voiced by the few?

It seems like this group is intending to hold Mr. Spoofee hostage to their demands......and be uncompromising.
 
Please....stop w/ the "cater to the whims" bologna.
No one is holding Spoofee hostage. No one is demanding change.
You should not speak on behalf of Mr. Spoofee. I think if he popped his head in once and a while and spoke up for himself there may not be so much confusion. From my point of view..and others there hasn't been a compromise from his mods. I am not speaking about all of them, please understand that.
You and I don't always see eye to eye and we butt heads A LOT, but for to assume that the "group that is planning to head out the door " is not willing to "be more tollerant" is outrageous.
I am one of them and I will speak up and say what's on my mind. That is my right, just as much as it is yours.
I've been extremely cordial about all of this and I am in no way making demands or whatever.
This is not a personal message to anyone. I'm just putting it out there. Constructive or not, there it is.
I would love for the site to be an upbeat happy place it was, say....a year or so ago and I'll do what I can to help out, but the attacks on member has to stop!!
 
I'm not speaking on his (or anyone else's) behalf by any stretch . I'm speaking on behalf of myself and what I have noticed.

I'm not assuming anything, you stated that they're planning to leave again.......no assumptions.

BTW no site is ever 'upbeat and happy' all the time...that's not websites and that's not life or human nature.....sure it can be more negative at times and it's not just the mods that make it so.....some members are just negative in nature and nothing will make them happy.ever.

I speak for no one but myself and as myself.

Just like the demise of Spoofee will not be because of one member, it will neither be because of one mod. No one is irreplaceable.

If you truly would love for this place to get back on track, what are you willing to do? What are others willing to do? Obviously you haven't found another site that suits you better......or you wouldn't be here now. What do you bring to the table? Part of the solution or the problem?
 
Honestly, don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split ya. I have been here since October and only noticed one very serious problem that was handled immediately in a proper manner. If people are pissed, let em go! There are 50,000 members on this site, some come and some go, every single day! EVERYONE has to realize that Mr Spoofee CANNOT and will NEVER please everyone!!! It is unfair to change a site feature because ONE person gripes! Instead of griping and moaning, why not PM a person and say hey, can I have an invite to your group? If they say no, then you can gripe. I for one would have invited you to any group I created, don't just assume you weren't invited because you weren't wanted, geeesh, 50,000 members, any normal person is going to forget to invite a few here and there! Let me leave you with a phrase that I learned early in life, and it helped me through the crappy waitressing jobs, You can please some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you will never please ALL of the people ALL of the time! How about trying to build the site up and other people up for that matter, instead of tearing it apart and b*tching and moaning? Excuse my language but OMG, are we all children or what????? Spoofee created this site, he can wipe it out tommorrow. You can either sit there and feel left out and feel sorry for yourself, or dive in whole heartedly and have fun and realize people aren't perfect. This site has saved me so much money, we have gotten so many much needed freebies, and enjoyed unexpected treats, and for that I say THANKS! I have not once griped and complained about anything this site has to offer, like I said before, constructive criticism does so much more than it's MY way or the highway buddy, I mean COME ON, NONE OF US are in kindergarten anymore, learn to work with people, not everyone is going to CAVE to your demands! Thanks so much for griping about something that brought me joy and laughter, thanks so much for being selfish and self centered enough to only consider your own feelings and no one else's! Sorry to rant, but GIVE ME A BREAK! This is the real world, grow up and learn to live in it, or check in to a looney bin and they will teach you how. Never forget....

What comes around goes around.....


~~~Stepping off of my very rare soapbox~~

Thanks so much Mr. Spoofee and staff, I appreciate so much all you have done for me and my family, and what members here have done in kindness toward us as well, I love spoofee and I am sure this can all be worked out~~~
 
A lot of these "attacks" on members are misunderstandings, I have seen them, you can't express feeling adequately through a computer, a lot of people joke around and unknowingly hurt someone's feelings, why not step up and say, you hurt my feelings instead of posting a "staff member "a" hurt my feelings and I am not saying their name, PM them for goodness sakes and hash it out, if it is a personal attack, you'll know it, alot of it is misundertandings through computer communication, I have seen it all transpire over the past few days, why not PM the person?
 
precocious said:
It seems like this group is intending to hold Mr. Spoofee hostage to their demands......and be uncompromising.
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To an extent.. yes... and that is what I was trying to explain. I'm glad you guys said it much more eloquently than I could have. But I do have to say, there is definitely a lot more life in the forums which makes me want to visit and contribute more often.
 
I liked the social groups I joined the Crazy Spoofee's LOL
I think in time we would have had something for everyone.
 
If anyone thought I was complaining about not being invited to the "sane" group, I was only teasing and apologize to anyone who thought I was serious and had anything to do with the social groups being removed. :( It looked bad when Preco told me to count my blessings and I said that no one can steal my joy, but that part is something I live by every day because I am blessed to have the family and friends that I do. You guys have no idea how fortunate I am and being invited to any group is the least of my worries, I have three kids and a husband to be concerned about, not a cyber-group.

I try my best to get along with everyone and wish that more people would just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

If anyone thought I was serious, again I apologize. :rose:

Joyce
xoxo
 
OK, people, we're getting waaaay too intense about all of this--the groups, etc. aren't such a big deal. Whether the group function is enabled or disabled isn't going to make a big impact on any of our lives. As Joyce said, we all have lives, families, jobs, the economy, etc. to worry about---this is a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. If someone has a complaint or concern, I still think they should be allowed to voice it to Mr. S. (as long as it's done politely) without others jumping down their throat. He owns the site--he can always say no. Other members can always weigh in and say they don't like the idea without attacking the member who made the suggestion in the first place.

I'm not trying to be rude and I hope I don't offend anyone---I'm just concerned that we're bickering this much over something trivial.

I, for one, have said my last words on the subject...time to move on. My 2 cents.
 
Drifa said:
OK, people, we're getting waaaay too intense about all of this--the groups, etc. aren't such a big deal. Whether the group function is enabled or disabled isn't going to make a big impact on any of our lives. As Joyce said, we all have lives, families, jobs, the economy, etc. to worry about---this is a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. If someone has a complaint or concern, I still think they should be allowed to voice it to Mr. S. (as long as it's done politely) without others jumping down their throat. He owns the site--he can always say no. Other members can always weigh in and say they don't like the idea without attacking the member who made the suggestion in the first place.

I'm not trying to be rude and I hope I don't offend anyone---I'm just concerned that we're bickering this much over something trivial.

I, for one, have said my last words on the subject...time to move on. My 2 cents.
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Just for the record, i agree with Drifta here. You all know i dont say much about anything that goes on at this site because, well, its just not that important to what goes on with my everyday life...that being said i suggest that all of you look and see how important this issue is with you. It's just a web site for goodness sake....maybe we all need to rearrange our priorties a bit, eh?:convinced:
 
Drifa, this goes beyond one feature on the site......we'll all survive if the social groups don't get re-opened. I don't see 'attacking' going on here, just discussing to resolve some issues. :noidea:

We requested an open dialogue between members, mods and owners and that's just what's happening here. To just 'move on' at this point will leave us all where we started.
 
:hug: :kiss: What are you apologizing for, Joyce? :confused: You don't have anything to feel bad about, all you do is make this site better! :rose: If anyone is pointing their finger at you then that person has some serious problems, IMHO! :mmph: You know you will always have my back! :hug: :kiss: :bigok: And, not because of your generous ways, just because you are one the best human beings I have ever met! :angel:
 
I apologized because it looked as though I was talking crap about not being invited into a group when I was only teasing. :( I guess I'm not good at joking around because looking back at the posts, it looks really bad.

I'm going to move on from here, let's go and have some fun! :)
 
It's not you Joyce, I believe it's just the control over spoofee without even asking the members first, it's just taken away and no one asks anyone's opinion, a better way to have handled this would have been to take a poll with no comments allowed, this post started a huge battle when it could have been handled much better. You know it's better to ask than just smack a member on the hand and yank away priveledges, we aren't 3 year olds and the members have a lot to do with the success of spoofee, asking them first would have been the right thing to do.
 
ULTIMATEgrafx said:
It's not you Joyce, I believe it's just the control over spoofee without even asking the members first, it's just taken away and no one asks anyone's opinion, a better way to have handled this would have been to take a poll with no comments allowed, this post started a huge battle when it could have been handled much better. You know it's better to ask than just smack a member on the hand and yank away priveledges, we aren't 3 year olds and the members have a lot to do with the success of spoofee, asking them first would have been the right thing to do.
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That isn't true. What happened is a couple members complained about the division the Social Groups seemed to be creating and Spoofee disabled the Social Groups. FYI I had more than one member complain to me about them and I'm assuming other mods received similar complaints.

As mentioned, I think the Social Groups could be fun, but I think they should be open to everyone and not only by invitation.
 
Big Daddy said:
That isn't true. What happened is a couple members complained about the division the Social Groups seemed to be creating and Spoofee disabled the Social Groups. FYI I had more than one member complain to me about them and I'm assuming other mods received similar complaints.

As mentioned, I think the Social Groups could be fun, but I think they should be open to everyone and not only by invitation.
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A couple members out of 50,000???? And POW the groups are disabled, maybe I am speaking out of turn here, but that doesn't seem right or fair. People complained because they weren't invited, like when you were in school and not picked to play on a ball team and someone got upset?!?! Someone is ALWAYS going to get upset! Like I said before, the right thing to do would have been to say "Some members are complaining about the groups, spoofee members, what would you suggest to solve the problem" The people that complained could have very well started their own groups, asked to join a group, don't sit there in silence, I don't know about anyone else, but I can't read minds, especially over the net! Had I created a group and someone PM'd me asking if they could join in, I would have said sure. Making them public is a great idea, but why not institute that idea, before just yanking them off the forum? I don't want to fight about this, but it could have been handled MUCH better!
 
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