I am so annoyed......

I understand what if feels like to be judged. A couple of weeks ago went to a fund raiser for my daughters school at Chuckie Cheese. It was a school night and my 9 (now 10 year old) wanted to spend some of her tickets on buying cotten candy. I had no problem with this because 1. we don't ever eat candy and 2. she just got a 100% on a report she wrote. When I say we don't eat candy, we really don't eat candy. Just threw away the Halloween candy. This mom came up to me and critized the fact that my daughter had the cotten candy and how I shouldn't allow her to have it. Then last week the school had a half day, now I do daycare so I needed to pick up the kids from school. One of my daycare girls was still going to take the bus because her dad was going to pick her up from the bus stop for a daddy/daughter day, and this has been the plan for the last month. At the school when you pick up kids you have their names put on a call down list to be called down to the office. This same mom went to my daycare girl class (who is riding the bus and is only 6 years old) and told her that I forgot about her and she needed to come down to the office. The girl came down to the office crying because she thought I forgot about her. Then not sure at this time if she missed the bus or not I said I don't have enough seat belts in my car to take her with me. Then this mom goes I can take her home, and if you do daycare you should have a bigger car. What she didn't know is that I do have a bigger car I have a van, but it was getting fixed and I had a rental, but this wasn't going to be a problem because the one daycare girl was riding the bus. Luckly she made it on the bus, but I just don't understand why this women took it upon herself to become involved in something she had no understanding of. She did see the girl cry and never said sorry to me, the girl, or the girls mother.
 
That just sounds like a really mean lady, rcdldl- don't let it bother you. She'd have something to judge if she knew me cause I do love my candy!;) Hope she doesn't keep bothering you...
 
Yeah, I know, squid- that's one reason I said the lady shouldn't judge rcdldl- on the other hand, my family does eat candy so the lady could judge me all she wants--has nothing to do with it, but I just said it:noidea: I think people are just too judgemental overall...

LOL preco, that'll work. I wouldn't complain...;)
 
How does that old saying go???

Something like....

Never discuss politics or religion at a family gathering (unless you want mashed potatoes in your lap).
 
bluesky said:
Yeah, I know, squid- that's one reason I said the lady shouldn't judge rcdldl- on the other hand, my family does eat candy so the lady could judge me all she wants--has nothing to do with it, but I just said it:noidea: I think people are just too judgemental overall...

LOL preco, that'll work. I wouldn't complain...;)
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I see... I understand it now. My bizzad.
 
bluesky said:
That just sounds like a really mean lady, rcdldl- don't let it bother you. She'd have something to judge if she knew me cause I do love my candy!;) Hope she doesn't keep bothering you...
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Agreed! I have M&M's both plain and peanut here on the desk! Wanna be my cohort in crime and share?!?!?! :) :wave: Shoot, I enjoy candy what can I say?
 
I don't want to come across as a health nut, because we are more of a potato chip family, than a sweet tooth family.

Another saying I have heard is: "One shouldn't assume because it makes an a** out of you and me".
 
Well, I graduated from a Catholic high school. I too went through paper work, interviews, and testing just to get into a Catholic school. It's like applying to college. Crazy, huh? Well, on the plus side, I didn't have to take the exit exam. :)
 
sole sista,
just move out here with me- we have phenomenal public schools, and hopefully i'll be teaching in one of them next year.

imo, (note, i didn't say imho, because i would never claim that my o is h!) public school is a right, private school is a privilege. they DO have a right to choose whether or not to accept the kids. it may be discriminatory, but as long as it's not based on your religion or skin color, yada yada, it's legal.

that said, i don't think it's very christian to not accept everyone who wants to come. if they really want to be THAT choosy, they could raise the prices so that only those who REALLY want to put their kids there, will. if your children truly were discipline problems, they certainly have policies and procedures to deal with it. why not give everyone a chance?? besides, they should be happy you want to fork over the moola for all of your little "hooligans" ;)

luv ya!

ps- just move out here :hug:
 
Clubby, I agree with you.

School systems vary widely even in New York City from boro to boro, even within the Boro there can be vast differences, because they are 'community based' or zoned. There are many things that I do like about Public Schools, being educated in a Catholic private school myself, I have learned certain values and ways that I so cherish, however, what I found later to be lacking is 'exposure' to other religions and philosophies. They were really never covered, mentioned or 'introduced', yes, but no great detail. In Public, they also have more funding and therefore, again, depending which public school you are in, there can be many valuable programs.

Our current local public is okay, I'm not thrilled with some of the things and it tends to be a bit too liberal for what I want for the kids. The next step, the Public "Intermediate" school in my area is a big concern. It wouldn't be too bad if it were just 'community based' kids, but there is a shortage of space in general for Intermediate schools and therefore they are busing in kids from other neighborhoods to this school.

The neighborhoods they are coming from are very rough. Their home lives are not solid and there are many 'security' issues within the school. They even have a floor of 'lock down', high security. That is not for the 'bad kids' but for the 'good kids' so they are not picked upon...:confused: They would eat my daughter alive! :eek:

As stated previous, my local Catholic school is a nice local school. It's not a highly competitive, elite school, or a specialty school, etc. I was just in 'shock' from the whole experience, never thinking that they were so intense in the screening/interviewing process. But I had previously heard 'through the grapevine', that this particular principal is very strict and scares many of the parents! lol You know the old pendulum? She's on one of the ends.;)

K-sera, we shall see.

P.S. Clubby, I was just saying to Hubby that I'd love to go to California but I am afraid to...........because I know I wouldn't want to come back! ;) I could use a bit of the nuts, fruits and flakes! They're pretty fun sometimes.:)
 
It is a parent's job to teach kids values, morals, beliefs, etc. That isn't a school's job.

People think we have taken Jesus or morals or values or whatever out of the public schools. I have to question the logic of solving the problem by taking out the Christians, too.
 
pinkflutterbys said:
It is a parent's job to teach kids values, morals, beliefs, etc. That isn't a school's job.

People think we have taken Jesus or morals or values or whatever out of the public schools. I have to question the logic of solving the problem by taking out the Christians, too.
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Pinkflutterbys, I've read your post several times and I'm not quite sure what you are saying. It can be interpreted in many ways....:hmm:
 
I'm saying if you want your kids to learn morals and values, you need to teach them yourself and don't worry so much about the school they attend. They are going to learn so much more from their parent's example than from anybody at school.

I'm also trying to point out that if a person is unhappy with the state of public schools, they should get involved with the public schools and try to help rather than shun them. This is why I teach at a public school and why I wish that more parents and community members would get involved and bring their morals and values to the public schools rather than criticizing the school and leaving.
 
How about....

Kiryas Joel it's a yeshiva - i'm sure they'll take your money and such nice kids you'll have..
 
pinkflutterbys said:
I'm saying if you want your kids to learn morals and values, you need to teach them yourself and don't worry so much about the school they attend. They are going to learn so much more from their parent's example than from anybody at school.
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I agree with you....the school should not be the only place they should be learning this. It starts at home and children learn from example, but I disagree with you in that it does matter what school they go to.

Would it not be better for a child to be surrounded with people of similar beliefs in a learning environment to reinforce the values and morals that you want them to acquire? The children get to learn the dynamics and get to see their 'values' in action 'outside their home'. I think it can be too confusing, especially in the early years to throw them too many options and variables when they barely have gotten their feet wet.

I'm not saying that children don't survive the 'public education' with their 'values and morals' intact, but that IMHO and for my children, I'd rather these 'values/morals' be reinforced within their 'general education' as well.


pinkflutterbys said:
I'm also trying to point out that if a person is unhappy with the state of public schools, they should get involved with the public schools and try to help rather than shun them. This is why I teach at a public school and why I wish that more parents and community members would get involved and bring their morals and values to the public schools rather than criticizing the school and leaving.
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I live in NYC and you live in TN....my 'City Hall' is much larger than yours!:p

All joking aside, for a 'change' to be made here, would take a lot of effort from many people, would be very costly and very time consuming. I have approached some issues with my individual school and have gotten no where. So many people 'pass the buck' that I've learned I have to 'choose my battles'. I have worked with the teachers 'individually' with regards to my children but in the 'public education' there is a lot more constraints in their teaching methods and content.

One example...my son is not a terrific speller. (He doesn't get that from me ;) ) With the 'new' curriculum, teachers are very limited with the amount of spelling corrections they can make. There are no 'spelling tests'....so when the teacher saw that I was making my child write the correct spelling of each word 10x each, she was thrilled! In her position, she could not request that and since then, his spelling has improved drastically. In private schools...the teachers have a bit more latitude.

I've seen a lot of differences in public schools from State to State and also at a much more local level. It's very hard to compare Public Schools from different areas, it's like Apples to Oranges.

*Also, as far as getting the parents/community more invovled....many families have 2 parents working full time with some more than one job each. For me, I have 4 children, my Hubby works 2 jobs and sometimes I struggle to squeeze in dinner everyday! There's only so many hours in each day and there is a long priority list. I'd love to have more time to become involved with the school because I am not happy with the personnel (even the PTA) and I know that if I did get involved, there would be changes and I could make a difference, but....... right now I'm just struggling to do the best for my kids that I can with the resources that I have.
 
I see nothing wrong w/ the public schools. After all they still have a set curriculum that they have to enforce. I personally think it's better for a child to get a wide range of everything. This will better allow them to figure out what they want to believe. I think they need to be subject to diversity. If everyone grew up w/ the same beliefs it would be boring. Shoot you and I would probably get along better. ;) :wave:
 
precocious said:
I live in NYC and you live in TN....my 'City Hall' is much larger than yours!:p



One example...my son is not a terrific speller. (He doesn't get that from me ;) ) With the 'new' curriculum, teachers are very limited with the amount of spelling corrections they can make. There are no 'spelling tests'....so when the teacher saw that I was making my child write the correct spelling of each word 10x each, she was thrilled! In her position, she could not request that and since then, his spelling has improved drastically. In private schools...the teachers have a bit more latitude.



*Also, as far as getting the parents/community more invovled....many families have 2 parents working full time with some more than one job each. For me, I have 4 children, my Hubby works 2 jobs and sometimes I struggle to squeeze in dinner everyday! There's only so many hours in each day and there is a long priority list. I'd love to have more time to become involved with the school because I am not happy with the personnel (even the PTA) and I know that if I did get involved, there would be changes and I could make a difference, but....... right now I'm just struggling to do the best for my kids that I can with the resources that I have.
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TN is not as backwards as many people think. I guess you have to live here to know that.


My mom teaches second grade. She gives spelling tests and has students write the words several times each as part of the spelling lesson one day each week. I can't imagine why they can't do that in NY.


You do sound busy... but have you thought about how the cost of a private school affects your household finances and schedule? Maybe someone wouldn't have to work as much if the kids were going to the free public schools. It must take a lot of time and energy to hunt for an acceptable private school. Could any of that time and energy be refocused toward involvement in your kids' schools to try to fix the issues you see there?
 
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